The Daily Dumbass: Pat Robertson loves proving he's a jackass at least once a year

>> Wednesday, January 13, 2010

(H/T Salon)


And you know, Christy, something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it, they were under the heel of the French, uh, you know, Napoleon the third and whatever, and they got together and swore a pact to the devil, they said, we will serve you, if you get us free from the Prince, true story. And so the devil said, 'OK, it's a deal.' And they kicked the French out, the Haitians revolted and got themselves free, and ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other, desperately poor. . . the Island of Hispaniola is one island cut down the middle. On the one side is Haiti, on the other side is the Dominican Republic. Dominican Republic is, is, prosperous, healthy, full of resorts, etc. Haiti is in desperate poverty, same Islands, uh, they need to have, and we need to pray for them, a great turning to God. And out of this tragedy, I'm optimistic something good may come, but right now we're helping the suffering people, and the suffering is unimaginable.
I wonder how long we'll have to wait for an apology. He apologized after he agreed with Jerry Falwell's ridiculous comments regarding 9/11 several years ago. Here's what was said almost nine years ago:
Then Falwell said, "What we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact, God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve."

Robertson replied, "Well, Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror, we haven't begun to see what they can do to the major population."

Falwell said, "The ACLU has got to take a lot of blame for this. And I know I'll hear from them for this, but throwing God...successfully with the help of the federal court system...throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools, the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked and when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad...I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America...I point the finger in their face and say you helped this happen."

Robertson said, "I totally concur, and the problem is we've adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government, and so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do, and the top people, of course, is the court system."

Falwell added, "Pat, did you notice yesterday that the ACLU and all the Christ-haters, the People for the American Way, NOW, etc., were totally disregarded by the Democrats and the Republicans in both houses of Congress, as they went out on the steps and and called out to God in prayer and sang 'God bless America' and said, let the ACLU be hanged. In other words, when the nation is on its knees, the only normal and natural and spiritual thing to do is what we ought to be doing all the time, calling on God."

Update (01/13/10)

Rachel Maddow mocked the odiousness of Pat Robertson's comments:

And then the Haitian Ambassador to the U.S. weighed in:

And has Pat Robertson issued an apology yet? Well, the only kind he's interested in making is one where he doesn't really apologize for what he said. From the official Pat Robertson website: – VIRGINIA BEACH, Va., January 13, 2010 --On today’s The 700 Club, during a segment about the devastation, suffering and humanitarian effort that is needed in Haiti, Dr. Robertson also spoke about Haiti’s history. His comments were based on the widely-discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman, where the slaves allegedly made a famous pact with the devil in exchange for victory over the French. This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed. Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God’s wrath. If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson’s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them. His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster. They have sent a shipment of millions of dollars worth of medications that is now in Haiti, and their disaster team leaders are expected to arrive tomorrow and begin operations to ease the suffering.

Chris Roslan
Spokesman for CBN
Still a first rate jackass.


PS (PSanafter-thought) 15 January, 2010 10:03  

Can you imagine if this man was your pastor and you had a disaster in your family. He might start fault finding when he came to counsel you.

Likewise, I remember sitting in a church a few years ago and hearing the pastor telling how God is always with us and nothing will hurt us, etc. Like talking to a 2nd grader. I turned to my husband and said, "Well, he couldn't say that after Katrina." Husband, "Nor after the tsumami." We sometimes think that Christians will be spared, and indeed, the Bible sometimes implies that believers are spared (think about the psalms which talk about being delivered from famine.) But we need to look at the whole scripture.

House of Brat 16 January, 2010 23:01  

I don't understand why people like Robertson become pastors. They seem to me as if they dislike people in general, always wanting to condemn folks for this, that and the other thing. The "holier than thou" mentality doesn't even begin to explain it as far as I can tell.

(I always get Robertson mixed up with James Dobson too. Another not-so-positive figure who has a following far larger than he deserves.)

PS (PSanafter-thought) 17 January, 2010 09:07  

It is notable that most "famous preachers" in this country, and by that I mean those who get on TV all the time, are under their own organizations, their own corporations, not under a specific denomination. They may have a denominational background, but they stand on their own, financially. There is nobody to give them the hook if they stray from the denominational line. I'm sure that many of these people started out with more humbleness than seems apparent later. That direct-line-from-God demeanor is a huge turn off for me.

Dr. James Dobson isn't a pastor, nor is he a doctor in the conventional sense of the word. He is a PhD child psychologist who was, at one time, on the faculty of a medical school in California. I used to listen to him in the late 70's when he stuck more to child and family issues, but was still prone to hyperbole. Now he speaks of a range of issues on which he has only a pundit's perspective. I think he has crossed the line many times in what he has said and hasn't walked the talk. I've written to his organization regarding issues of Christian stewardship of money. The response was that the Bible says it is perfectly acceptable to accumulate wealth. There was nothing about using money as Jesus commanded.

House of Brat 17 January, 2010 22:24  

I'm always leery of televangelists having grown up in the era of Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart. I didn't watch them, but I remember when their scandals broke out. Which is why I'm always suspicious of mega-churches.

I only know of Dobson from his inflammatory statements. I'm too young to know him when he was known as a child psychologist. That was something I just found out this summer when I was reading an article that referenced him in that regard but not in a positive way.

Regarding the accumulation of wealth, that totally reminds me of an article I came across a couple of months ago on the "prosperity gospel" called: "Did Christianity Cause the Crash?"

Anna 18 January, 2010 13:39  

Yes, I think about the future when those things are going to happen, I don't deny that it will most likely happen. People can call us "haters" all they want, we aren't. Like I've said and everyone else has said before, we aren't hating gays, we just think that because they haven't repented, they shouldn't be our pastors. We are more than happy to have them worship with us and be a part of the congregation.
So what the ELCA is aiding the Haitans? Good for them. It's a very desperate cause. However, we don't need an overall church body supporting a cause in order to donate to the cause ourselves. It's great that ELCA is donating, but I am more than capable of sending my money there all on my own, without an overall body. One reason LCMC isn't is because last time I checked, it was several times smaller than ELCA, and may not have the funds to fully donate everywhere they would like. That doesn't mean that they will stop us as a congregation from individually choosing to send money. I don't know why they haven't issued a statement, I'm not an insider there, but I will admit that it is a little strange. But once again, that isn't stopping the individual from sending money. There are tons of people in America who don't belong to ELCA yet are still supporting the Haitans. I for one, would be happy even without ANY overall church body. One reason that this new congregation is trying to become a part of LCMC, is because it allows us to offer health insurance etc. to any prospective pastors, which for a lot of people is a big deal, and the LCMC is one of the least bureaucratic church org.'s in the country, it is extremely small, thus, we would still have a lot of authority to do things without a lot of say from them.
I really don't want this to become a month-long argument. I mean, it's really clear that you have one set of ideals, and I have another, and if you don't like what I'm saying in my blog, don't read it.

PS (PSanafter-thought) 18 January, 2010 14:46  

I'm not sure how Anna's comments follow from the post or the following comments, but I decided to answer two points: There are many good charities that are helping and will help in Haiti. The Red Cross comes to mind. Charities have some overhead, and that can be as high as 80%, ie only 20% of the funds of the least efficient charities go to the "cause." The ELCA's diaster relief funds are 100% dedicated to the specific area that is designated. The ELCA has dedicated $500,000 toward the Haiti relief situation in advance of collecting from people, in anticipation of people giving through their churches.

I know that Lutheran World Relief is also a good one. Sending money as an individual is not possible since there is no banking system left in Haiti. The money would have to be directed to a specific person or organization.

Regarding the issue of gays, etc. we need to look at the language used. Whenever WE/THEY language is used, then the "they" people are on the lesser side of things, that is, not quite on the same place as the "we" people. Yet God made us all, ans we are all sinners, saved by God's Grace, we are ALL children of God, brothers and sisters in Christ, even if you are gay. The ELCA vote does NOT instruct any congregation to hire a gay pastor. Read the details rather than just relying on what was in the newspapers.

House of Brat 18 January, 2010 19:48  

I don't think Anna's comments are supposed to be a response either to the post or the comments above. I made a comment on her blog that the LCMC has yet to respond to the crisis in Haiti while the ELCA has. Why she did not respond to my comment on her own blog I don't understand.

But you made excellent points. I find it ironic that she claims the LCMC is less "bureaucratic" and would give her congregation more independence as reasons for leaving because the resolutions passed by the ELCA in August just give local congregations more control.

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